PGP Filmcast 001 - The re-re-beginning and Top 10 Crime Movies!
Hello everyone and welcome to our monthly meeting of Chad, Terry and Tom to discuss a movie topic or theme du-jour with an 80's film, current film and competing Top 10 lists.
This episode is all about Crime movies. We watched Reservoir Dogs and The Gentlemen and get down and dirty with some Top 10 lists. Baywatch is a crime movie, right ?!?
Transcript
00:00.41
CHUD
Oh, where's the countdown I didn't see it all right? Well I I was looking at something else.
00:02.25
tomgustafson
Um, it was visible on the screen was not an audio countdown. You don't say the 2 or one Chad I can see you nodding I see you guys nodding.
00:15.10
CHUD
All right welcome to an episode our first episode of the reboot of the Pgp film cast I know there's hey we're on what like number 5 for Batman I think we can we can do this.
00:20.57
tomgustafson
Zang.
00:22.29
Terry
Um, isn't this the reboot to the reboot.
00:29.85
tomgustafson
Everybody seems to like the new one I probably will never actually see it. But since I missed the last like 4 or 5 super spider mans I have I'm way behind in my superhero movies.
00:39.80
CHUD
I went and saw the Spiderman again last night I went with Joe and ah he hadn't seen it yet and that's then I was like oh let's go a movie and that's what he picked so that's like yeah yeah.
00:50.63
tomgustafson
People seem to really like it supposed's be very good.
00:56.60
CHUD
And then the new Batman haven't seen it yet because you got to plan about half your day around it. So it's 3 hours long maybe a touch long.
01:03.55
tomgustafson
Oh my god do at that is there any point where do they do they put intermission like a break in the movies anymore like if it's over two and a half hours or you just expected to try not to piss yourself through 3 hours of a movie.
01:11.48
CHUD
Um, there was I want to say the hateful 8 the tarantino movie that came out of fears. Go ahead and intermission. Ah.
01:25.60
Terry
It did indeed.
01:29.57
CHUD
That's the only one that I recall but they took out the intermission for the home video release. But other than that I know there was talk of ah the Zack sniders justice league because that was a bit long that was about 4 hours long if it had been.
01:45.81
tomgustafson
Change cheese.
01:46.87
Terry
Um.
01:49.90
CHUD
If it had been ah released theatrically it would have had an intermission but the.
01:51.50
tomgustafson
I Think of it if it if the movie lasts longer that probably would have me to pass a Kidney stone probably needs an intermission.
01:57.30
CHUD
Yeah, but that only got home released on home video are Hbo Maxes what got released on and obviously you can just posit and then go do whatever it is that you do in the middle of a movie.
02:09.38
tomgustafson
Then then you're cool.
02:13.82
Terry
Oh you don't want to know.
02:15.40
tomgustafson
Somebody just need to take care of business there. Yeah.
02:16.10
CHUD
But ah huh hey I take care of business during the movie. No matter where I'm at ah.
02:22.97
tomgustafson
If I um I would scar my children psychologically and physically if that ever happened where are you watching that's Aquarium of the dead. This is an Asylum release. Ah your sick.
02:29.44
CHUD
Ah, yeah, no, that doesn't happen that was a lie What are you watching. All right? Well I'm the host Chad um, and then we also have Tom who's.
02:43.21
tomgustafson
Yeah I I will be able to get you copd and all the I got like the last eight Asylum releases to start working my way through.
02:48.18
CHUD
There you go so and then we have Terry who will has different movie tastes than me and Tom but.
02:55.63
Terry
Um, yeah I Like to think of myself as the wacky sidekick.
03:00.24
tomgustafson
He watched turning red just to see there actually would show somebody having ah their period. But then he used really disappointed. Did you watch it yet. We would watch it Russia friday.
03:04.70
Terry
And and I was thoroughly no I No I haven't I haven't seen it yet. But I assume I'm going to love it because I love Pixar So they.
03:07.96
CHUD
Just bloody mess.
03:18.26
tomgustafson
It's I would say it is funkier than I in mission. It is a weird movie I mean it was quite good, but it's not one I think that like your kids will watch like over and over again's like to them. It was sort of mind blowing. There's like this is such a strange movie. They they loved it. But there's like. They couldn't because it is mayhem at certain whites not as much as I was hoping there's I'd say there's no real specific Oma I was hoping they have some maybe little homage but it beginning the story seems quite similar than it definitely.
03:36.93
CHUD
How how much is it like Teen wolf. Okay.
03:55.62
tomgustafson
There is not a fifty foot tall teen wolf. So there's some divergence in the story. But.
03:59.41
CHUD
Ah, what a fifteen foot tall team wolf 50 Oh okay I I was thinking that there's a part that I missed in team wolf ah too bad.
04:03.80
tomgustafson
51 of the red pandas is quite large in this movie. No no, no, no nobody sitting in a van. There was no hardware stores or I was hoping for something named styles or maybe some sort of basketball reference. But.
04:06.75
Terry
But.
04:19.20
CHUD
Ah I mean I think styles would really translate well to to a kids movie just an overconfident geek and to yeah hey.
04:22.56
tomgustafson
Nothing.
04:30.75
Terry
Um, and a homophobic one at that.
04:31.70
tomgustafson
It so same who yeah, that didn't age well at all.
04:36.93
CHUD
I Know no I Not ah.
04:41.27
Terry
Ah, but no I mean that was the 80 s all over I mean every every time you needed a cheap joke. You went to homophobia that was yeah that was a big one. Yeah.
04:49.50
tomgustafson
Or cross-dressing probably had they rise all that boy.
04:55.24
CHUD
Crossresing you still do white shakes is what like 10 years old they made entire movie about that with um.
04:57.27
tomgustafson
That was doubled out that's white face and cross- dressing all together but probably 1 of the best Harry Cruise cameos of all time is him and white checkcks I don't want you to melt white chocolate.
05:15.98
CHUD
All right? so.
05:17.36
Terry
So Tom how much should I trust the waveform that I'm seeing here because I didn't know from where I'm sitting. It looks like you're clipping I don't want to point fingers. But you know I now. Ok.
05:22.54
CHUD
Yeah, yeah, ah.
05:26.83
tomgustafson
Oh me, oh mine doesn't look at all clippy least when I look up in general. It seems to when when I do the auto balancing and stuff at the end. It seems to travel really? well.
05:37.52
Terry
Yeah, no I'm I was I was amusing myself. It's not. It's not an actual concern.
05:41.62
tomgustafson
Okay I could be like Kirby I could be like in curbing the forgotten lands and like use my mouth to fully consume the microphone.
05:41.71
CHUD
Yeah, do you think? yeah.
05:49.85
CHUD
Do you think? maybe we should ah check to make sure that we're recording like correctly or before we do like an hour okay because up on. Ah.
05:56.93
tomgustafson
Um I buy I mean basically it it will do it correctly because it records all of us locally and then is uploading it in real time.
05:57.80
Terry
Ah, how would we do that.
06:05.12
Terry
Um, ah.
06:08.82
CHUD
The little thing at the bottom I only see the the wave thing on Terry's mind's flat line. Okay, yours doesn't move when I'm when you're talking. So just Terry I don't know it doesn't matter.
06:13.39
tomgustafson
Oh I see I see you when when you're talking. It's moving.
06:25.27
Terry
Yeah, and and this this is riveting radio for everyone who can't see our screens. Ah.
06:27.26
CHUD
We'll do it again. Yeah I mean.
06:28.40
tomgustafson
It is let's was your waveform look like oh is it peking yet? Oh it sure is peking.
06:36.58
Terry
Um, just for this just just just so the audience at home knows I'm sure Chad has the largest waveform I'm not flattering I just you know I think we're all show our wave forms Chad's probably got the biggest.
06:47.52
CHUD
Ah. Certainly no ah but ah, you know I think when we were doing the podcast previously I don't think we ever got the the ah.
06:52.88
tomgustafson
Stays way for.
06:57.11
tomgustafson
Quick We call him Geo Doc for a reason.
07:09.24
CHUD
John Cla Van damn episode of yeah to really enjoy that I mean speaking of going back and re recordinging John Kla Van Dan that was a fantastic movie.
07:10.79
tomgustafson
We can always go back I mean.
07:23.70
tomgustafson
I think I think I swore as I was trying to research crime movies that Jcbd did go by at one point because again like every movie in the world has some sort of crime aspect. Apparently.
07:32.63
CHUD
Yeah, that's but hard Target was the the one that we reviewed which was who got why would you want to block that out.
07:38.85
Terry
Oh yeah I tried to block that one out.
07:41.77
tomgustafson
Yeah, was well before and you before you joined Terry I was a chatterary knew but I wasn't sure but there is a sequel to Paul Blat Malco that I'm not sure if you've seen yet.
07:54.28
Terry
Um I haven't seen the first Paul Blart Malka so
07:57.66
tomgustafson
Oh wow.
07:58.92
CHUD
So did you said that would be disappointed in your number 1 is it Paul Blart Malco
08:04.99
tomgustafson
It is not. It's in in my runners up though I would have put paul bla mall up too. But I couldn't finish it I tried to watch it so I get added on my list but I didn't get through it all today only about half.
08:15.77
CHUD
Who no beer for my horses. Yeah that it was a crime that movie was made.
08:21.17
tomgustafson
Oh God That's a great movie just for how much you guys hated that one that because that that was my naked lunch that was your naked lunch was your beard horses to you was naked lunch to me just pure repulsion and anger.
08:35.92
CHUD
Well speaking I in today's episode we have our top 10 cry movies. So so maybe maybe some ah some good fellas. The godfather classics like that. Ah.
08:42.90
tomgustafson
So many writers up so many writers up on this list blue streak. Oh this every Martin Lawrence movie
08:50.00
Terry
Yeah, um I got to be I got to be honest I did 0 research on this one because when I thought crime movies I had no problem coming up with 10 and so I was like well those must be my favorites.
08:54.29
CHUD
Cool runnings.
09:03.69
tomgustafson
Yeah I mean what's your like do I have bad boys and bad boys too or like how do I do this.
09:08.40
Terry
Oh I tried to you know if if there is a series I just represented with one movie. You know I would go at the I would go at the best of that group.
09:14.70
tomgustafson
Okay.
09:18.26
CHUD
Yeah, bad boys I didn't have on my list and I didn't really think of it. But you know I I feel like that that would be high up but bad boys or bad boys too.
09:26.51
tomgustafson
Was a great movie. Bad boys too is probably the better movie but bad boys being the first one I find more memorable to me.
09:37.80
Terry
And yeah I saw him in reverse order. So for me like bad boys too is the one I appreciate more.
09:40.12
CHUD
Bab.
09:44.41
tomgustafson
Yeah, well I think that's I I guess I'd be curious to how successful bad boys 1 actually was I feel like it was a good movie. But I think bad boys who is the the blockbuster of that.
09:54.50
CHUD
But the thing with bad boys too though is that the the big action scene at the end where they're driving through all the crack houses and stuff and yeah, ah watch. Ah Jackie Chan's ah, police story and.
10:02.79
tomgustafson
Or like through the shanty town right? of.
10:13.94
CHUD
t same and yeah from like the:10:15.22
tomgustafson
Oh really.
10:20.74
Terry
Huh.
10:23.24
tomgustafson
Um, ah I I'm kind of amazed now after seeing what they've done to the fast and furious anthology series Now how did I was kind of surprised that didn't happen to bad boys I feel like that's another one they could have kept turning the crank for.
10:38.31
CHUD
Like ah they probably could have but Michael based Michael Bay was doing transformers for basically 15 years so
10:40.16
tomgustafson
Many many many sequels is it just will smith guy. Ah okay I didn't know if it was like maybe well I guess fast fear as they asked they have a lot of you know I'll say cost in actors and actresses. So I didn't know was.
10:57.74
CHUD
Yeah, I'm sure that that was probably part of it too. But I know Michael Bay was the bad boys is his thing and yeah, he was doing transformers instead and bad boys. 3 was very bad.
10:59.49
tomgustafson
If will Smith got too expensive. That's one point two just be a.
11:11.26
tomgustafson
I'd rather but rather have more bad boys movies than those transformers ones I'm sorry those were those were rough.
11:16.53
CHUD
The the transformer is terrible but they each made like a billion dollars. So I guess if ah you know I became a billionaire because I directed some terrible movies I guess I would I would just go do that.
11:30.20
tomgustafson
Give some that money to poor Mnet Shamelon I Don't think he's rolling in cash.
11:34.58
Terry
Now he keeps getting work. He kicks out a movie every couple of years I mean no one sees them anymore. But he makes them i.
11:36.72
CHUD
Huh.
11:39.99
CHUD
Yeah I liked ah the one the split personality one James Mcavoy split that was the name of the movie. That's that was good I did not see the sequel. But.
11:51.47
tomgustafson
I didn't ah didn't see that one actually yet.
11:57.58
Terry
I Have not seen either of them. But it's only because I have a hard bias against multiple personality disorder movies because it doesn't exist.
11:59.37
CHUD
I been.
12:08.85
CHUD
Well I mean it's a basically like a comic book movie. So I mean yeah I mean.
12:12.96
Terry
Yeah, oh is it? Okay I.
12:14.60
tomgustafson
Because is it a superhero isn't that or isn't there like some sort of weird overlap to like the ah the the unbreakable. Yeah.
12:21.30
CHUD
Unbreakable. Yeah so I mean well that was kind of a spoiler I guess but you know what it's like 5 years old probably probably more than that. Yeah, and yeah I don't give shit. So.
12:22.18
Terry
Ah, did not know that. And probably more than that.
12:38.85
CHUD
I Spoiled you keep listening why not.
12:41.28
Terry
I'll never get around to seeing it I Just I mean there's There's a lot of things to watch you know, but.
12:46.85
CHUD
Like what what have you watched recently.
12:49.21
tomgustafson
Um I watch I watch.
12:51.67
Terry
Um, well I mean we're kind of in the golden age of Tv right now over movies. So I watch a lot of Tv series and there's a lot that have just come out so I'm very busy.
13:03.74
tomgustafson
Oh like I'm watching I'm watching home improvement I got done Amazon prime oh okay, Golden Asia television that's exactly as like he's hoing home improvement.
13:04.45
CHUD
Yeah.
13:11.21
Terry
That's not really what I meant. But yeah, yeah, yeah.
13:11.87
CHUD
Yeah, gold then did you go and watch a last man standing after it just kind of a like a continuation just with three girls instead of 3 boys is.
13:20.32
tomgustafson
Yeah, yeah, is surprised I had actually watched all the last man standing before going back and I had seen all of I'm pretty sure I've seen all home improvement. What was literally on the air. So I'm just reliving it now. And then that made me start watching Jonathan Taylor Thomas movie so I watched man of the house with Chevy Chase which is on Disney plus that one's pretty good.
13:40.27
CHUD
Oh that one's pretty. He turns on the the cold water while he's in the shower that's rough.
13:47.14
tomgustafson
Yeah, join the Indian guides another part that didn't age super well. But.
13:53.40
CHUD
And JTT just ah, another child actor that just.
14:00.61
tomgustafson
I can know I mean he was I mean he was like handsome and and he seemed to be a surprisingly good actor I was I'm amazing. He didn't turn out doing more I would disagree who watched me of the house More recently me, who's more.
14:07.41
CHUD
Yeah, not a surprisingly good actor but he wasn't smallville though. Okay, that's true.
14:19.47
tomgustafson
I think I can judge his acting performance.
14:20.82
CHUD
Well, he wasn't smallville a recurring role he was in like 4 episodes. So not yeah he he is about two feet tall and ah Tom Welling in small villa was about probably a good two two and a half feet taller and and he was but.
14:24.10
tomgustafson
Um, did he ever grow or he's still like three feet tall.
14:40.30
CHUD
He could ah turn into 2 people like this is separate that was a superpower pretty pretty good stuff.
14:44.41
Terry
Oh turn into turn into 2 entities I thought you meant he could like Morph but only into just like 2 different people and that was the extent of it. What? Ah because yeah I mean.
14:44.64
tomgustafson
Like was.
14:53.17
tomgustafson
Um, oh I said I mean it just like he just conjoined.
14:53.29
CHUD
No yeah, he gets split. He could split into. Yeah so.
15:01.94
Terry
Sure it be cool to be able to transform just into one other identity but that's still pretty limiting in the superhero universe. It's like it's like I could be Sean or Shana you know.
15:06.42
CHUD
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15:08.61
tomgustafson
Depends on who that is though that could be you could have It's good. Good shenanigans.
15:13.68
CHUD
This is all right? Ah and ah.
15:16.49
Terry
Lot of flexibility in the bedroom. You know.
15:20.45
tomgustafson
What do I want to do? what do you want to do? It's the same thing. Ah, it's gonna get weird now. Do we have any guinea Pig Hay Left Oh God we do.
15:25.40
Terry
Ah.
15:32.83
CHUD
Lots of it bales. Ah you got pitchfork up.
15:36.21
tomgustafson
We let I do buy it by the bail actually now you're kidding but I buy it by the £20 bail
15:43.83
Terry
So how how many guinea pigs. Do you guys have okay.
15:47.50
tomgustafson
Ah, we're still at seven I was I successfully sex them after the second batch. So I'm pretty sure one of them has prater willie because 1 is like literally twice as big as any of the other guinea pigs and it's it's like job of the hut the guinea pig.
15:53.43
Terry
Oh shame on you.
16:04.74
tomgustafson
What rod around it's impressive. It actually has a double chin like I did know that could happen to a guinea pig his a gigantic ass and double chi is pretty good. Yeah James again James Guinea pig
16:04.99
CHUD
The.
16:19.83
Terry
I'm learning so much.
16:25.35
tomgustafson
It's basically more than Brando in the in inside our house.
16:26.52
CHUD
It was it like island Dr. Moreau Marlon Brando that cover himself in white shock and oh.
16:34.12
tomgustafson
Oh is hungry.
16:42.60
CHUD
All right? Well let's talk about some crime movies and we we watched a couple of good ones I thought I enjoyed both reservoir dogs which I'm sure you guys have seen multiple times right.
16:53.25
Terry
Um I I've lost track.
16:55.47
tomgustafson
Yeah, it's I I still every time I watch again though I still kind of am surprised by how violent it is every time I can't realize it's like Wow Okay I watched this when I was way too young.
17:07.31
CHUD
And then we also watch the gentleman with ah Matthew Mcconaughey and many others.
17:14.55
Terry
As nice. Nice to see guy Ritchie making guy Ritchie movies again. Yeah, which I didn't care for so for me guy Ritchie kind of went away for damn near a decade and then ah.
17:16.83
tomgustafson
It's.
17:19.28
CHUD
Yeah, instead of ah Sherlock Holmes ooh those are bad.
17:31.97
Terry
Now he made a guy Richie movie again.
17:32.21
tomgustafson
Yeah, but who is your favorite I guess criminal in the movie. Ah Chan I were time before that Colin Farrell kind of stole from me as coach.
17:41.90
Terry
Yeah, no I think well and he's really the only likable character in the movie because he's actually a good guy is just doing this reluctantly to save his kids which did you know they did something stupid say so he yeah.
17:52.42
tomgustafson
So been dumb? Yeah, but I guess then they save him at the end which is going to cool by killed by Murdergering russians.
17:53.62
CHUD
Yeah, yeah.
18:00.43
Terry
So he was very redeemable and you know and anyone who can get in a fight in a restaurant and give lessons while doing it like explain. Yeah.
18:10.25
tomgustafson
Trigger Good just the the knife bit slapping multiple times. It's revised stop but you're embarrassing yourselves.
18:13.56
CHUD
Yeah.
18:17.33
Terry
And like I might get lucky one day and win a fight but I certainly won't be giving lessons to my opponent as you know as I win that fight but whom am I kidding I'm I'm never going to win a fight.
18:23.88
CHUD
I Don't know I don't know just gotta go pick fights with teenagers and you might you might surprise yourself. Yeah.
18:33.18
Terry
Right out. Ah right out of bad Santa beat the shit out of some little kids today really made me feel good about myself.
18:39.30
tomgustafson
Um.
18:42.99
CHUD
Think he turned a corner. Ah yeah, ah well speaking of beating the crap out a little kids I I think I've talked to you guys about the the karate kid remake with Jackie Chan have you guys seen that.
18:56.65
Terry
Ah I have not seen this I know it exists but I've not seen it.
19:00.60
tomgustafson
I Don't think I've seen it either.
19:01.89
CHUD
Okay, okay, well maybe I haven't talked to you about it. But it's one of my has one of my favorite scenes of all time. So it's Jaden Smith is the karate kid they're doing kung fu but who cares. Ah the karate kid is Jen Smith yeah
19:14.92
Terry
The Kung fu kid just does not flow as well. Yeah.
19:17.49
tomgustafson
Rather done.
19:21.96
CHUD
It's in China and is' I don't know why they called that the karate kid because of the karate kid but anyho ah, there's a scene in it because Jade's made Jane Smith at the time was like probably 11 or twelve years old so they had to make all the kids the same age. But they kind of went beat for beat of the karate kid the original movie and so in the karate the original karate kid Pat Marita beats the shit off all the all the bullies.
19:56.68
tomgustafson
So so who play who's I Pat Marta then so is Jack Jackie Chan Pat Marrita like in the wow he would kill a child very easily I think.
19:56.92
Terry
Um, yeah, that didn't seem nearly as inappropriate in that one? yeah.
19:59.55
CHUD
And yeah, yeah, yeah, well I mean he never throws a punch but he does beat the shit out of a bunch twelve year olds
20:16.80
tomgustafson
As you probably was reading the script. He's like I'm in I'll never get to do this again. I'm gonna get paid to beat the show. Some kids let's let's create some Cinema magic.
20:16.77
CHUD
And um, in let's do this Ah, yeah, so if you're adult speeding up little kids. Ah my favorite scene of all time is the crowdy kid remake. So highly recommend it. You just Google it the clips on Youtube.
20:40.90
tomgustafson
There you go I don't have to watch the movie I can just get the good stuff right? There is Jasonden Smith still acting after like where was it planet earth what was the earth movie.
20:42.55
CHUD
And just watch Jackie Chan go to just yeah because the movie's terrible like I mean Jade this Ah I think god what was that to yeah it something earth was it wasn't titan a that was that animated movie right? Let's let's go to the big brand hold on second. Ah.
20:56.50
tomgustafson
Um, earth something.
21:11.52
CHUD
But yeah, let's get back to the gentleman you guys want to talk about that one first or yeah huh, it's a lot of pressure. Yeah, the gentleman so that is directed by guy Ritchie it's ah an american expat ah tries to sell off his highly profitable Marijuana Empire in London trading.
21:15.52
Terry
You pick whatever you want to do sure and.
21:31.56
CHUD
Plots schemes bribery and blackmail in an attempt to steal his domain out from under him ah see yeah it is Matthew Mcconaey is our american Michael Pearson then Charlie Hunham as Ray that's like his top lieutenant.
21:36.35
Terry
And what a cast.
21:50.68
CHUD
Michelle Doy as Rosalind Pearson is his wife and I thought Hugh Grant was surprisingly good as kind of our narrator.
21:58.16
tomgustafson
It took me half the movie to realize that was Hugh Grant I was like he looks familiar whereverever that is and like it's Hugh Grant but it was like a good hour in the movie.
22:03.81
CHUD
Yeah.
22:03.89
Terry
You know what What's interesting is that he you know is Hugh Graham but he was doing the ah the exact accent and delivery of um oh what's his name from snatch. The ah, the big gangster and snatch hold on. Let me grab his name here. no no Jason Statham's you know, kind of a middle level guy compared to the the big evil guy. What was his name.
22:23.10
CHUD
I Mean it's just stay them but but.
22:35.00
CHUD
Oh ah, the old guy. Ah here we go for PH fuck ah but
22:39.54
Terry
Yeah, hold on I'm looking it up.
22:42.75
tomgustafson
Fo folk for was a fufo fuck fuck page What folk if I'm sorry his great.
22:52.17
CHUD
Anyways, keep going through the cas. Ah then we have Colin Farrell as coach. ah then ah Henry Golding as dry eye kind of the leader of the the asian mafia then who else Ah Jeremy Strong is ah. The rich billionaire that's trying to buy the ah buy hit the the weed infrastructure and anybody else of notes. No. Ah yeah that that bug covers everybody. Um.
23:27.40
Terry
Yeah I was kind of hoping to see cameos by you know some of his favorite actors from the early days like ah was Vinny Jones um who's in both snatch and lockstock. Um, as well as ah, actually it would have been cool to get old Jason Statham in there and but what can you do.
23:51.86
CHUD
Yeah I don't know those guys. Oh Jason sa them probably would cost a a little bit too much and Bennie Jones ah I don't know it's his own thing. So I'm fine with it. So.
24:06.43
Terry
And know it. Yeah no I was just the little tip of the hat to the you know to the earlier films I thought might be worked in there and and they weren't but it's okay.
24:20.34
CHUD
No well. Ah, but yeah I I mean I when this came out I saw the trailer I didn't really think anything of it so I didn't go see it and ah came out right at the beginning of Covid. So.
24:33.57
Terry
I was wondering about that because I mean I knew nothing of this film and.
24:38.75
tomgustafson
Yeah I did not I had they did not look familiar at all when I pulled it up I was.
24:43.24
CHUD
it's a year before covid it's:24:48.14
Terry
Okay, yeah I just I could not believe I hadn't heard about this thing just because it you know it's kind of movie that I would be into.
24:58.68
CHUD
Yeah, it was quite good is like ah yeah, it kind of just flew under the radar then actually Tony saw it before I did and said told me that he watched it and said it was good. So I checked it out and I enjoyed it quite a bit. Let's see. Guy Ritchie I'm looking up because it's kind of like the first gangster movie that he did in some time I mean he did did you see as a King Arthur ah movie with Charlie Huntham oh that's that's.
25:33.24
Terry
Now that was rough ah all right.
25:37.99
CHUD
Yeah, it's kind of like same style as Sherlock Holmes but with King Arthur and as a period piece. Ah so yeah, this kind of is throwback to snatch in lockstock to smoking barrels. Um, so and then.
25:57.74
Terry
But yeah, my ah actually my only criticism really of the movie is that in a way he he's gotten a little too polished for this style because it just happens that I I went on a bit of a guy Richie Tit terror a while ago and so like snatch and lockstock were both pretty fresh in my mind and those were a little grittier almost like he just you know, just. Just almost out of necessity like he didn't have the budget and stuff to do as slick of a presentation as he did in this one and I actually kind of liked that raw feel a little more of his earlier films.
26:43.57
CHUD
Yeah I mean I would say snatch is my favorite of the 3 light clocktock. Ah but I like this better than locktock and two smoking barrels. Ah yeah.
26:47.72
Terry
Oh by far. Yeah.
26:53.87
Terry
The plot is better than lockstock Definitely lockstock had kind of a goofy plot but it was still so much fun to watch that nobody cared.
27:05.43
CHUD
And then all of them are better than rock and roller which I did not enjoy so.
27:09.45
Terry
Yeah I will I watch that once and then promptly decided to ignore it.
27:17.82
CHUD
Well, yeah, the storyline I mean it has the unreliable narrator and Hugh Grant so like ah Tom and I were talking about it. Some of it is a little confusing to follow because some of it's not true. What's happening and it's embellished. Ah. Ah, his point of view and whatnot. So.
27:36.90
Terry
Yeah, um, but you know I thought he did a nice job early on of you know, kind of letting the audience know that like hey I'm going to show you you know this guy killing everyone in the room and then tell ya well though, no, That's not really True. So that that way you know so the skepticism is planted early on yeah and that was yeah.
27:58.15
CHUD
Yeah, so.
27:58.20
tomgustafson
We I think you use like let me tell you the story or let me tell you a story and him repeatedly coming on to the guy was also pretty fine Don you come so so over here by me.
28:08.35
Terry
And that was the other really fun thing about the movie for me was presenting it as a pitch for a movie complete with you know so screenplay Lingo and you know all right and give me a smash cut and they do a smash cut and. You know stuff like that The self referential thing it can suck to do that. Um I've seen it done badly. But um, this I thought it was used to really good effect and it was justified considering where the movie ended up and that was nice.
28:42.17
tomgustafson
I Still even after they mentioned I Still don't know what a Smash cut is oh okay, not not a single star wipe though now. Oh.
28:46.22
Terry
Ah, it's just a hard cut where you know? Yeah, no, no, no star wipes in the whole thing. Um I I did want to look up and shit I forgot to do this I wanted to look up whether or not this film was shot on film. Um, because.
28:50.14
CHUD
No dissolves or but.
29:06.10
Terry
Early on is in ah in the spiel. You know he kind of dises digital cinema you know we? yeah yeah thirty five Millimeter film stock and you know let's leave the grain in the frame. You know all those kind of film. You know.
29:11.65
tomgustafson
Always all but like the certain millimeter film was like right in the beginning.
29:26.40
Terry
Adages and it made me wonder did they shoot this on film.
29:30.25
CHUD
Yeah I mean it looks very clean. So I don't know I doubt it.
29:33.66
Terry
I Know it looked it looked digital to me which is you know I'm not an expert. But.
29:39.30
CHUD
Ah,, let's See. It looks like it was shot digitally. So So negative format was Codex. There's.
29:54.10
Terry
Um, actually yeah I'm looking at the specs right now and ah yeah, so so negative format codex means that it was it was digital and they used the airy Raw format. Um.
29:59.51
CHUD
I Don't know.
30:10.66
CHUD
As probably wasn't as good as snatch or lockstock.
30:12.57
Terry
Ah, you for. And well and those I'm I can almost guarantee were shot on film. Yes, for digital totally took over.
30:20.17
CHUD
two thousand s but snatch was:30:29.69
Terry
I yeah um snatch was shot on thirty five Millimeter using movie cam and airiflex cameras.
30:32.54
CHUD
Yeah.
30:38.45
CHUD
I Don't really care what movies are shot on some some are pretty much snobs about it. But.
30:40.94
Terry
I mean well I like if there's a reason for why it was shot one way or another you know I mean there there could be a strong argument made for shooting a particular story on film. But if you're just doing it. To shoot it on film and there's no motivation behind it. You're probably just wasting a lot of somebody's money.
31:04.39
tomgustafson
I Guess I just get what what would the motivation be like what? what? what would be improved by shooting on film versus digital like ah.
31:10.37
Terry
Ah, well I mean you can hearken back to a specific aesthetic of you know movies from eras past that kind of thing. Um and like I've seen solderberg do that and ah, you know, ah some of the more a tour directors will shoot on a particular film stock. To get the feel of a particular you know era of film but beyond that there's not a ton of justification for it. The only other justification that I hear pretty often. Um with interviews with cinematographers and stuff is that um. Thirty Five Millimeter negative still does have much more detail than you know four k and 8 k. So if you're doing something with a lot of really textured dark tones in on the darker end of the of the scale then they're. There is a benefit to film because you preserve more of those details. Um, so I don't know if you're going to go back and remake 7 you would probably still want to shoot that on film. You know.
32:17.59
tomgustafson
Okay, you is is the tradeoff being though that most theaters are digital. So you're kind of losing that quality and anyways.
32:17.75
CHUD
Please don't.
32:25.28
Terry
Well even when you shoot on film. Um, it'll still get distributed digitally because there's most theaters just don't have the capability to show film anymore unless you get into like the arthouse theaters at least that's my understanding I maybe.
32:40.88
CHUD
Yeah, ah ah, all the most of the like like big theaters that have like 15 screens are all digital now I mean you'd be hard pressed to find 1 but there are a couple in Minnesota that.
32:44.69
Terry
You might know.
32:59.53
CHUD
Has like 1 or 2 screens that will show films and they usually show fit like old movies on film. Ah, there's 1 in Columbia Heights god I can't remember but I know I have never been there because.
33:03.48
Terry
Yeah, do you know what? they are do you know which theaters.
33:11.60
Terry
I Just care if you don't know off top of your head That's fine. But.
33:18.20
CHUD
I mean who I don't really go see old movies in theater too much. But.
33:24.99
Terry
I've gone to see certain films just because I never had the experience of seeing them on the big screen. Um, but now is it's terrifically rare.
33:34.36
CHUD
Ah, yeah, it's a heights theater in Columbia Heights is and I know they they have projector but but yeah, pretty much almost any new movie that you go see is going to be digital because.
33:38.28
Terry
Um, ah.
33:52.29
CHUD
Lot easier to send a send that out than a bunch of reels. You don't have to hire projectionist really to ah to like screen the movie and because now associate. Yeah so I mean they they basically killed an entire job with ah.
34:02.17
tomgustafson
And like dearam. Basically yeah.
34:08.60
Terry
Okay.
34:11.36
CHUD
But this now is this You go hit a button before you know you had ah.
34:13.37
Terry
But the thing is is if those digital projectors aren't you know, maintained and calibrated Correctly, you can end up going to see a movie with that's you know, maybe a little washed out or something just because the theater is not correctly tending to their projectors. So.
34:28.70
CHUD
Oh yeah, yeah, no I Yeah well it's ah, a lot cheaper for the theaters to do digital than it.
34:33.15
Terry
I Mean there's there's there's tradeoffs. Either way.
34:39.40
Terry
Oh Yeah I mean it's it's digital is cheaper all through the chain from production to distribution. It's all cheaper to do it digitally? um my understanding is that if you want to shoot on a particular film stock nowadays that you actually have to like. Pay the company to start making that stock again because a lot of them aren't available. Yeah,, That's what I've heard I mean this is this is from film geeks on the internet. So take it with a you know, truckload of salt but that is what I've heard.
35:00.71
CHUD
Really, it wouldn't surprise me I mean.
35:11.26
CHUD
Ah I mean I got imagine like Kodak is still making plenty of thirty five millimeter for for movies and stuff because I mean a lot of the big time directors still shoot on film I know christpher nolan does Jj Abrams does pretty much anybody. That's younger or older than forty years old probably is shooting on film because that's that's what they they've always done basically unless you're George Lucas and you'll ah.
35:40.65
Terry
Then you'll push really hard for digital and make all the theaters change because fuck them apparently um, because fuck those theaters Apparently um.
35:44.75
CHUD
Yeah, ah well now they they should be thanking them because now all the it's all a lot cheaper. So so.
35:55.76
Terry
True, Um, it would be interesting and you know maybe ah, another podcast somewhere else will take this up but it'd be interesting to know the ratio of film to digital productions.
36:11.70
tomgustafson
Is that something like is like does Imdb is there an easy way to like surface that like how it was.
36:16.32
Terry
Oh yeah, you can look up pretty much any movie and find out what it was shot on.
36:20.47
tomgustafson
Okay, so I think with I bet they have an Api where you probably could write a little script ah to tell you that percentage pretty quickly like for a given year or something.
36:21.70
CHUD
And it's under the technical specs towards the bottom right.
36:34.13
Terry
Yeah, I'm not going to do that I don't care that much. But you know someone out there probably could.
36:41.64
CHUD
All right? Well back to the movie. Ah so I think it's pretty Colin Farrell stole the movie everybody enjoyed his character the most.
36:49.20
Terry
Yeah, ironically I thought my Cona haes was the least interesting performance of the whole movie.
36:55.60
CHUD
Yeah I would agree this this kind of I don't know I think he's just kind of the character that you put yourself into and.
37:01.77
Terry
But yeah, well he he didn't have a whole lot to work with because the while the film was about him I don't think he I mean if I think if you were to time it out. He he had the mind the minority of screen time by far. Um. So I mean he's kind of a supporting character with a role that didn't you know, give him tons of meat to chew on. You know, but.
37:31.61
CHUD
Yeah I really liked ah Henry Golding is dry eye I thought he was good and then ah then Hugh Grant where I already talked about Colin Farrell then Charlie Hanham who is you know sometimes I really like him.
37:36.83
Terry
He was great. Yep.
37:50.44
CHUD
And other times I just I don't even know how he gets a job I thought he was really good in this one other movies that you may see ah Pacific Rim He's a main character in that and yeah, he was bad in that that movie he did not print.
38:01.54
tomgustafson
Who Okay, it was not He was not in flow. He's not in the flow in that movie.
38:10.10
CHUD
No, he was not in flow. Ah that was that was tough. Ah but then in this, he's really good and so ah, it was a good movie and what's his name.
38:20.53
tomgustafson
Kind of kind of walsh Pacific room again I greatly enjoyed that movie.
38:29.84
CHUD
Guy from the wire. Um the black guy can't think of his name. The black James Bond
38:38.10
Terry
Oh by the way I I found out the character name I was trying to think of and the actor name brick top from the movie snatch. Yeah, um, he's played by Alan Ford and if you'll listen to his characters delivery. Um.
38:38.45
tomgustafson
I've never seen the wire.
38:46.53
CHUD
Okay, yeah.
38:57.25
Terry
I swear to god um they he guy peers are not peers um guy Richie was writing the same character in this movie. Um, as he did when he wrote that character in snatch because the the lines in the delivery are are very similar and. It's a clearly the an accent from this similar part of ah from england.
39:20.40
CHUD
Yeah, no I then they both narrow 8 parts to the movie where they're talking about other characters as well. So um, yeah pacific Idris Elba as ah I couldn't think of his name but.
39:25.70
Terry
I ah.
39:34.82
Terry
Well, it's a weird name I love the guy to death. But it's a weird name. In fact I think I've I probably say it differently every time I try to say it just because I'm never sure so it comes out like so I Drew is.
39:38.99
CHUD
But.
39:47.56
CHUD
I I idris idris elba elba Alba Abba
39:54.36
Terry
Um, yeah I mean I love him. He's I've loved him ever since the wire. But.
40:01.95
CHUD
But he was fantastic in Pacific Ram He kind of made the movie outside the like action season special effects I watched first season. So right, let's move over to the reservoir dogs which.
40:07.82
Terry
Do you ever watch luther. Okay, he's great in that too.
40:20.76
CHUD
You know if you're listening to a very obscure movie podcast. You probably have seen reservoir tongues.
40:25.13
tomgustafson
Yeah I guess I didn't know I asked you could talkbo but I feel like there's maybe not quite as much to add to a movie that's fairly the one. Ah yeah, ah.
40:25.81
Terry
Um, so so tell me about this reservoir dogs. What is this? ah.
40:32.79
CHUD
Well when ah when a simple jewelry heist goes horribly wrong The surviving criminals begin to suspect that one of them is a police informant.
40:41.56
tomgustafson
Um, but they never show the actual robbery. It's just the round the robbery.
40:41.76
Terry
Um, oh my God You don't say.
40:45.81
CHUD
Ah, yeah, just around the Robert Rob roberty robbery ah this is Quentin Tarantino's first. Ah, it's his directorial debut which.
40:56.64
tomgustafson
Um, oh I guess I didn't know that I guess I realized this was his first first.
40:59.71
Terry
Yeah, and like he exploded on the scene with this one. He I mean yeah, right? Well I mean independently reservoir reservoir dogs was a huge hit. Um, so.
41:03.73
CHUD
Yeah, all over your face.
41:13.64
CHUD
Was a true romance before this or after after. Okay, yeah, no I was just wondering if he wrote true romance and based on that movie. He got this was able to.
41:17.96
Terry
After and actually he just wrote true true romance. He didn't direct that.
41:31.97
CHUD
Fund this. But.
41:32.52
Terry
Yeah, now he he got this made I and I don't know exactly how he ended up how he got reservoir dogs off the ground but I know that you know once once that did really well. Um, then of course he got to make. Lots of stuff after that and thank God because his movies are kind of just they're always awesome Even if they don't end up being one of your favorites you you never forget it? Ok well which one wasn't awesome.
41:59.89
CHUD
Not always awesome, but you know that's ha the hateful 8 was. Ah yeah.
42:07.96
Terry
It was definitely his weakest film I'm with you like if I had to rank all of the Tarantino movies that would be at the bottom but but partially just because of the horrible ham handed. Um.
42:15.51
CHUD
Excuse me.
42:25.16
Terry
Exposition He does right? after the intermission where he tells you in his own voice a bunch of information that wasn't shown before about the poisoning and blah blah blah and I can't tell you how much I hate that. I've seen the movie 3 times I hate it every time and ah yeah, I really hurt the movie for me.
42:48.51
CHUD
Yeah I've only seen it the 1 time what we went and saw and that that was a speaking of film since we were talking about we went and saw the seventy millimeter print that was not shown in Minnesota so that and ah there.
42:59.57
Terry
Yeah, we did.
43:07.67
CHUD
Part of the reason why I know so much about like digital projectors and stuff when that movie came out like there was a big thing that was being projected on seventy millimeter and where it went. They're having trouble finding projectionists to actually show the movie because that all of the guys were out of work so they had to like.
43:23.77
Terry
Um, or dad I mean a lot of them are old.
43:26.89
CHUD
Yeah, yeah, so so they were having problems like all over the country because like wherever it opened that was showing the seventy millimeter print like they're burning through the film a lot. They couldn't get to work and there's yeah, all sorts of problems. but but ah no that was the only time they've done it. So ah now it's like every once in a while like ah Imax will do a seventy millimeter like I know Ben Hur got released for a short time.
43:45.25
Terry
So they never tried that shit again. Um.
44:03.88
Terry
Man.
44:04.10
CHUD
On Seventy Eight millimeter but ah yeah, reservoir does ah directed by Quentin Tarantino wrote written by Quentin Tarantino starring Harvey Kaitel is Mr White Tim Roth is Mr Orange Michael Madson is Mrlon Chris Pen as nice guy Eddie Steve Busami as Mr pink. Then Lawrence T Tierney as Joe Cavitt and who.
44:25.71
Terry
Which ah, there's some interesting backstory to Lawrence Tierney in this movie. Oh just? Ah, um, apparently he was such a pain in the ass to work with that Tarantino actually fired him and people had to intervene.
44:31.83
CHUD
Oh go for it. Okay.
44:45.44
Terry
And like you know phone calls were made and blah blah blah and eventually Tarantino rehired him. But um, yeah, apparently they just clashed hard which I mean what and if you know you know, kind of the legend of.
44:54.38
CHUD
What do you mean? you don't tip.
45:01.87
Terry
Lawrence Tierney I mean he was a hollywood tough guy. He's always getting trouble for you know fights and bars and all this stuff and I guess as I understand it that stuff kind of ended up hurting his career after a while because um because he really was this sort of I don't.
45:18.16
CHUD
Kind of a dick.
45:21.16
Terry
Yeah, kind of a drunken bar fighting asshole and ah you know some people don't act. They just live it and so yeah, so that's Lawrence Kierney and reservoir dogs almost didn't make the cut. Was almost fired.
45:39.76
CHUD
Well, he's not in it too much So I don't think it would have been and yeah, it was good in it though. So.
45:42.63
Terry
Yeah, not have shit he could reshot those scenes but you know I mean here? Yeah Tarantino being Tarantino you know why he hired Lawrence Tyranny is because he knew of you know.
45:54.72
CHUD
Yeah, yeah.
45:56.89
Terry
Tyranny's earlier work and his reputation and stuff and wanted him in the movie I'm sure that's why he went for Harvey Kael as well. Um, yeah, it's kind of interesting. Um I believe this was the first movie that I ever saw Tim Roth in way back in the day. Um.
46:10.74
CHUD
Really mean the what the the Shakespeare movie that was before this wasn't it. Ah, what's the name of that movie. No, it's the.
46:19.10
Terry
Okay, maybe but I didn't notice him in it then probably a Shakespeare title I don't know.
46:29.41
CHUD
The 2 side characters Gary Oldman Tim Roth ah yeah yeah I I know you were hit free more than you do.
46:29.77
Terry
Oh oh yeah, Rosen Krannz and Guildden Stern are dead. Holy shit, you're right? So this isn't the first movie I saw Tim Rothin but I didn't know who Tim Ross was from and that doesn't surprise me I I was really high for a lot of it. Um.
46:48.77
CHUD
and Guilden Stern are undead:46:51.64
Terry
Oh really and there' zombies. Ah don't know how I miss that? Um, but reservoir dogs was also one of the movies that made me fall in love with Steve Busami
47:07.42
CHUD
Yeah, see was semi ended up being in most of Tarantino's movies for a good while.
47:13.24
Terry
Um, yeah I mean talk about just fucking great luck as an actor and I and I know it's because he's talented and not just because he's lucky. But I mean he became a favorite of Tarantino and of the cohens I like that's pretty cool.
47:26.13
CHUD
Yeah, ah I mean this movie I mean it's been copied quite a bit the whole nonlinear storytelling but became very popular after this and.
47:44.76
Terry
Well yeah, and I mean I kind of feel like reservoir dogs was almost like a proof of concept for Tarantino to then be able to go ahead and make pulp fiction because you can see kind of ah a lot of the ideas that that formed.
47:45.27
CHUD
Pulp fiction and yeah.
48:03.77
Terry
Pulp Fiction work sort of tested in reservoir dogs. Um, at least says the way I like to think of it is you know he he got to try some things out in reservoir dogs and then perfect it for Pulp fiction.
48:17.56
CHUD
Yeah, ah and Tom ah what? what? if you he says too violent too too much for you. Ah.
48:23.80
tomgustafson
Yeah I guess just as I've gotten older I guess I have less stomach for the in like haple 8 like you mentioned some of the other tarant team movie is the I mean not that it's bad but the sometimes the ultravi I find a little harder to get through these days for me.
48:38.17
Terry
Fair enough. Ah, but you know I I guess I'm going to see violence I want it presented in an ugly visceral way and not glossed over if that makes sense I mean.
48:48.82
tomgustafson
Yeah, what do you think? ah you know for the comparison like when I think of the gentleman you know most of the severe violence was indirectly I guess referenced or kind of happened off just off camera is that something you preferred that or do you like I want to see the brains coming out and.
49:00.66
CHUD
Yeah I mean.
49:05.34
Terry
I Guess what I'm referring to more is the comparison between like the violence and reservoir dogs as compared to the violence in say your average blockbuster superhero movie. Um.
49:07.99
tomgustafson
With.
49:20.60
Terry
I Mean pound for pound there's way more violence in the superhero movie but it's just you know it's It's glossy. It's eye candy it right? right? right? whereas a violent act.
49:28.20
CHUD
It's it's it's robots and aliens. You can kill all those no problem.
49:28.68
tomgustafson
Um, oh okay.
49:36.47
Terry
In a tarantino movie feels like a violent act and I think carries with it The weight that a violent act should um but that that's my taste That's not for everyone and I get that.
49:48.13
tomgustafson
Yeah I guess I guess it's that type of violence that I find harder to stomach because I guess I'm not bothered necessarily by the violence of a Marvel movie. But yeah, it was sometimes was tough to watch so some of the scenes at a reservoir I is like oh man.
50:01.50
CHUD
Yeah, when and when he cuts off the year is ah is the yeah I was oh, it's a yeah, but 1 thing that on this rewatch that I noticed that kind of bug me.
50:04.11
Terry
Well that I mean that's famous. Yeah, everyone everyone winces at that one.
50:13.43
Terry
Out.
50:20.13
CHUD
So they're trying to get away at during the robbery or the run from the police and he's the Mr Brown has just been shot in there had to get a new car and they gets in front of this lady and. The lady reaches in grabs a gun out of the glove box. And yeah, why she put the car in park.
50:44.69
tomgustafson
Put your Hazards on let's put parking break on.
50:45.79
Terry
Ah I mean you know I.
50:51.19
CHUD
Because the car doesn't start rolling away after she he shoots her and she's obviously doesn't have her foot on the brake anymore like no she turned sideways so and then she's like yeah so she put the car in park. So.
50:56.71
Terry
Well, you don't know I mean it could just be resting there on the break. Ok fine. Well it Yeah, it.
51:10.43
CHUD
For all the listeners If you're getting carjacked you you duck under and hit the hit the gas and just go Um, she got him? Well no I mean.
51:15.74
Terry
Yeah, that would have been the smarter move although in her in in fairness I mean she killed Mr Orange I mean
51:28.30
CHUD
Shot him but she paid for that but with her life.
51:28.37
Terry
Um, well that comes yeah but I mean that comes down to the whole debate at the end is did Harvey Kaitel shoot Tim Roth or not.
51:39.68
CHUD
Um, I always assume that he did. Yeah.
51:42.48
Terry
You do hear a gunshot that you think is probably him shooting Tim out. So ok, fair enough Harvey Kitel truly killed Mr Orange but I mean she she helped yeah because there's the shot of Harvey Kaitel shooting Mr Orange and then.
51:50.72
CHUD
Yeah, um.
52:01.62
Terry
Once that shot happens then the that's when the police that are surrounding him you know feel free to shoot Harvey Catel so
52:06.12
CHUD
Yeah I I mean you you hear the gunshots in the background I always hope that Mr Pink got away and yeah well I know but you know with.
52:13.20
Terry
No no, he died literally everyone dies in this movie because that's sort of the point. Um, because if I understand what a reservoir dog is correctly is that wasn't there a problem in L a for a long time of dogs that had. Basically turned feral and basically kind of lived around the the reservoirs in L A and they would attack people and attack each other and.
52:37.50
CHUD
I mean I heard that from you So you're the one that told me so I would.
52:41.13
tomgustafson
I mean.
52:44.26
Terry
Okay, well I was probably lying so I don't know that we should trust that no I it it played into the plot of ah of a punk movie called suburbia that came out in the early 80 s I remember that is a.
52:50.15
CHUD
Ah, it sounds right right.
53:03.19
CHUD
Suburbia one that there's a Steve on movie that came out in the 90 s was a different one. Okay.
53:04.60
Terry
Yeah. No, no, no, this is same title but good decade earlier and I think it was a decade earlier I'm going to double check that.
53:18.19
CHUD
All right? Ah, but yeah.
53:18.89
Terry
in it. So that's exciting. Um:53:30.13
CHUD
ovanni re being Steve's on in:53:36.42
Terry
Ah, bullet.
53:43.19
Terry
Also very compelling I haven't seen it in so long now remember if I like it yeah was wasn't it.
53:47.88
CHUD
I like that movie. It's good. It's ah Richard link ladder yeah is ah just after I think is couple years after days and confused same type of movie.
54:02.28
Terry
Okay, yeah.
54:07.25
CHUD
But yeah back to reservoir dogs. Ah I mean it's classic I mean many people have tried to copy it and it is it. Yeah.
54:16.53
Terry
All have failed actually there is a weird rash in the late 90 s of poor imitat yeah poor imitations of Tarantino films was that one 3 days in the valley or something like that and.
54:22.89
CHUD
The Tarantino Rip off yeah Yeah with ah yeah, but James Spader and that o that that was bad.
54:34.81
Terry
Yeah, ah, not good and ah you know I I can even tell these directors what they got wrong. Why I wasn't as good as a Tarantino version. Um, think about Mr. Pink. Not Mr. Pink Mr. orange bleeding in the backseat of that car after he got shot and just kind of freaking out and he thinks he's going to die think about how long Tarantino sits on that shot. It's a lot of pressure for the actor I mean tim roth Tim lly had to bring it but the fact that he did. I mean it made the situation so real and immediate a lot of these other imitation films. They don't take that kind of time to focus on the part of the scene that really matters and tarantino is great at that.
55:22.97
CHUD
Yeah I mean that's a kind of a common thing in all modern movies that they don't stay on a shot long enough and then the movie kind of feels a frenetic and yeah yeah, cause like ah they.
55:32.23
Terry
Um, yeah, it's so impatient. It's just you know? yeah.
55:42.52
CHUD
There was a star wars comparing like empire strikes back to like ah the last Jedi and and how you know there's certain scenes that you know there's like 10 cuts in the more modern one whereas the the old movies you know. Nice twenty second cut and and I don't know ah other people have described it better than I ever could so.
56:06.40
Terry
Yeah, but it's ah it's definitely one of the things that I tend to like more about you know, lower budget less produced movies is that um you know they. And a lot of times they can't afford to do 10 different angles on one action and so you know takes will end up being longer hell is wasn't it Rodriguez who his first film ah was it. Um, no ah strangers in paradise is that a.
56:34.16
CHUD
The rogue killers or what was this first movie.
56:43.22
Terry
Hold on I got to double check this because I don't want to lead people asrive. But um, yeah I think the whole shit I think the whole film is shot and master I Damn it cant maybe I'm saying the wrong movie? Um, but yeah.
56:48.95
CHUD
Um.
57:01.74
Terry
Famously shot and master. Um, now I'm I'm thinking of a different director clearly. Um.
57:04.78
CHUD
Road racers as well as thing and our.
57:14.38
Terry
Talk amongst yourselves will I figure this out right? but that but that wasn't all shot and master I'm not I'm thinking of a different director. Ah ah, got the director who did like ah.
57:16.29
CHUD
El Mariachi is the was his first movie right? there we are that that's not the one. Okay.
57:30.47
Terry
Was that one with Tom waits and um, yeah was that director's name. Um I yeah I'm I'm looking it up Jim Germo thank you god why couldn't I think of that fully crap.
57:31.61
CHUD
Oh ah down by law was well look it up. Let's check it out. Jim Ger mosh
57:50.43
Terry
I'm getting old man I know I'm getting old shit I' gonna start forgetting my own name and forgetting to jerk off in the morning. It's just gonna be chaos. Um, yeah, um.
57:51.60
CHUD
You're always talking about James Germus
57:57.50
CHUD
Who are you again? Ah you're saying that like that's bad thing.
58:04.30
tomgustafson
Assistant.
58:10.11
Terry
But no one of his earliest movies. Um stranger than Paradise. Um, yeah, the whole thing is shot in in master like just one shot because ah he couldn't afford to do close ups so he didn't. I Think that's a great reason to just do one shot I Wish we go into the close up. No film cost Money. We're just moving on.
58:28.30
CHUD
Yeah I mean all right? Well I mean that's usually all innovations in the movies are because we didn't have enough money to do it this way.
58:32.16
tomgustafson
Keep him moving. Oh yeah.
58:42.88
Terry
Right? Or the technology didn't exist yet.
58:47.73
CHUD
Yeah, like ah jaws like oh we would have had the shark anymore. But the damn thing didn't work ended up being a better movie.
58:52.16
Terry
Right? And yeah, way better. Can you imagine if you saw the Shark a lot totally would have ruined it.
58:58.59
CHUD
Yeah, all right? Well let's ah so reservoir dogs gentlemen I thought pretty similar type movies kind of ah it just different eras.
59:09.10
Terry
Yeah I mean if if I had to yeah if I had to pick between the 2 reservoir dogs is more my kind of movie. Um, but I'm also a sucker for guy Richie films except for the sherlock movies. So you know I liked I liked.
59:17.90
CHUD
And.
59:27.30
CHUD
Yeah, you should watch ah the the King Arthur guy Ritchie movie and you might add that into the ones that you don't like.
59:27.65
Terry
The gentleman as well. Ah, well it sounds like I would also um I I don't know I'm weird about this. But for me Shakespeare is always a hard sell on film I've seen stage productions that I just adored. But.
59:49.10
CHUD
Is King Arthur Shakespeare I mean is it? okay.
59:50.83
Terry
For some reason on. Yeah yeah. But yeah for some reason on for some reason on film like shake Shakespeare just doesn't work as well as it does on stage and I can't.
59:59.63
CHUD
Ah I don't know I'm not real.
::CHUD
Yeah, this was definitely definitely not Shakespeare. So ah, but yeah I I like both movies a lot and ah I I liked Resvoir King Arthur
::Terry
I wait what was the title. Yeah that's Shakespeare I swear it is it that shit now you're make now you're making me question reality and.
::CHUD
Okay I don't know I always think of King Arthur Legend of the sword King Arthur Legend of the sword. But.
::Terry
Or wait now I am mixing it up with ah with something else. Okay, now that no we got it. We got to stop and linger on that because that's fucking embarrassing. Um.
::CHUD
But anyways I like the reservoir Docs more but but hey that it won't be the last embarrassing thing any of us says. So.
::Terry
Ah, which which would Shakespeare. Yeah, no, but what which Shakespeare play am I mixing this up with.
::CHUD
Ah, there's a bunch of a man ah with like King in the title.
::Terry
Yeah, it.
::CHUD
So Tom which of do you prefer reservoir dogs or to the gentleman it sounds like the gentleman was a.
::tomgustafson
The the gentleman I think was more maybe maybe just like as ah ter like said's or more slick and I guess maybe the more refined future version of sort of the reservoir dog storytelling where it and just it was new to me.
::CHUD
Yeah, yeah.
::tomgustafson
So I had not seen it before. So I think that just makes it more interesting for me as of today.
::CHUD
Yeah, and I'd say the gentleman is a lot more fun to watch like it's not as dramatic. It's ah, kind of a more entertaining movie to sit down and watch and rather than a very heavy movie like the reservoir dogs. So. Figure out that ah Shakespeare we're gonna keep moving on. But ah.
::Terry
not not no keep keep moving I'm looking I'm just I mean obviously I got it wrong but like I'm just wondering like how like what was I mixing it up with was it King Lear that maybe I was mixing it up with King Lear
::CHUD
Um, King Lear King Lear
::Terry
I don't know it's just when he said it for some reason my brain went to Shakespeare and I man. Yeah.
::CHUD
We were talking about Shakespeare before but and it was medieval times King Arthur wore this big fur coat that looked like a pimp in the movie. The.
::tomgustafson
Rill it.
::Terry
No should I can see the ice I can see go in that direction with it all right? So I think maybe you know all those drugs I did when I was younger really caught up to me after a while okay moving on.
::CHUD
Guy Rich he won. Ah.
::CHUD
Hey is bound to happen eventually right.
::Terry
And I mean sure. Yeah.
::CHUD
All right? Well we talked about a couple of crime movies now we're gonna talk about our top 10 crime movies in all time all time. So maybe 1 of the movies that we watched are is on somebody's list could be.
::Terry
It could be um, you know, but now I'm questioning whether or not any of my movies or even movies you know like did I actually see these or were they just were were they just like you know fever dreams or something I can't be confident anymore.
::tomgustafson
No no.
::CHUD
No no.
::CHUD
It could just be Tv shows.
::CHUD
Ah, ah does the sopranos on your list. Ah no, all right? then definitely movies and all right? Ah I picked it so'll guess I'll go first. Ah number 10 number 10 if you had notes by the accents.
::Terry
No, no okay. Go for it. Man.
::tomgustafson
Is it part is a fire goal or.
::CHUD
Minnesota Fargo number ten argo. Yeah there you go ah fargo number 10 cohen brothers spaned a tv show and know I won what.
::Terry
Ah, you betcha. That's a good one.
::CHUD
2 or three academy awards. So I feel like people are in agreement with me that is the top 10 then number nine I have true romance. We kind of talk a little bit about it. Sorry Christian Slater
::Terry
Fair enough.
::tomgustafson
It is on my runner's off. Absolutely.
::Terry
Um, an underappreciated film in my opinion.
::tomgustafson
Oh yeah.
::CHUD
Lots of crime drug deals.
::tomgustafson
Like your I thought you're gonna say true lies and then then I got disappointed.
::Terry
Ah, did isn't it Val Kilmer playing Elvis in the background on that one. Yeah.
::CHUD
Yeah val kumer plays Elvis and Brad Pitt plays the the stoner roommate.
::Terry
Um, yeah, he does the scene where they come in in question of Crags me up.
::CHUD
That that ah you guys want to hit this ah fun in the original like cut of the movie. They kill them after they question him but people were so upset by that they.
::Terry
Yeah man I you you can't kill stunner Brad Pip man but
::CHUD
They changed it so that he lives was his name Floyd as Floyd right? I think that's his character's name but it's Brad Pitt ah number 8
::Terry
Um, yeah, playing his donner. He needs to go back to doing those roles.
::CHUD
I don't know he was good at it. Ah as long as he doesn't do interview with the vampire ever again then I'll be I'll be happy. You should go watch it again and as this awful is bad I love Tom proves too and.
::Terry
He was very good. Um, oh come on I like interview at the vampire I have It's not that bad.
::CHUD
It's bad number 8 I have snatch. We talked about that a little bit then number 7 ah a Tom Cruise movie collateral directed by Michael Mann also starring Jamie Fox Jamie Fox plays a taxi driver that is driving around a hitman.
::Terry
Appears on another list.
::Terry
Oh good choice.
::CHUD
Doing all the ah all his murdering. Yeah.
::Terry
Unknowingly at first. But then you know once the fact guy lands on his cab then you know then he suspects something. Ah.
::CHUD
Something's up gonna keep driving out though then number 6 I have ah probably a little low on list. So for most people good fellas with ah you know.
::Terry
Yeah, it's on my it's on. It's on my runners up.
::tomgustafson
Does say did yeah yeah, did didn't make my top.
::CHUD
Ah, yeah, it's almost like too obvious the to name.
::Terry
Well I just I mean it's a great movie but how how many times do you go back and rewatch that one you know it's just it's not the most enjoyable movie to watch is I guess my take on it. It is a bit long.
::CHUD
Yeah, and it's a bit long. Ah but Rayley Oto is great in it Joe Pesci and Robert De Niro so I mean I'd say like any like mafia crime tv show. Yeah.
::Terry
Um, yeah, if we're doing if we're doing a mafia movie list. It would be very high ranked but this is just crimes man just crimes.
::CHUD
The number 5 is just crime criminal criminal activity number five I have baby driver with his getaway driver doing crimes.
::Terry
Um, and he's a baby. Um.
::tomgustafson
I See as like I think a boss baby now is like I just can't get that on my mind.
::CHUD
And names baby. Ah, but yeah, ah God was the director's name.
::Terry
Strangely, it's very similar to drive which came out right around that time now he that was drive. Yeah.
::tomgustafson
Um, is that Ryan Gosling was baby driver who is drive. Okay.
::CHUD
That was drive. Yeah yeah, and and they're not I mean they're both getaway drivers but that's kind of where where the similarities end I would say.
::Terry
Sorry in the background. My kid is being forced to go to bed. So.
::CHUD
No, but it's a egg or right movie that shadow the dead and hot fuzz. So it's ah different than those but this this is I would say Hot fuzz is the only movie I like better than.
::tomgustafson
Um, no.
::Terry
Clearly.
::CHUD
That baby driver of all this movie. So I'm yeah, that's too bad ah that number four had had this title like before we found out about all the people that were in it.
::Terry
See I'm I'm old school I'm still shan of the dead all the way.
::tomgustafson
Highlight top was yeah.
::CHUD
And it's the usual suspects I still I still like the movie but it's Scott Kevin Spacey directed by Brian Singer there's probably some some.
::Terry
I Mean it's on my runners up.
::tomgustafson
It's a classic I mean.
::Terry
No I mean.
::CHUD
Bad shit that went down on the set of movie. You said Rick twice ah number three ah catch me if you can.
::Terry
First Yeah no I mean the set was probably pervy but it's still a great movie I mean.
::tomgustafson
Um I create.
::CHUD
With Tom Hanksley and our Dicaprio. It's a classic I think more of a modern modern classic. But.
::Terry
Um, yeah, you not a lot of films result revolver on something as you know mundane as check forgery but they found a way. Yeah.
::CHUD
It was good then number two ah l a confidential yeah ah god who Drew I can't remember who directed that but you know I had a great cast Kevin Spacey Kevin Spacey doing a lot of crime movies and so yeah.
::Terry
On another list.
::Terry
Yes, yes, and probably behind the scenes doing a lot crimes then no I'm in fact, the matter is is Kevin Spacey's a phenomenal fucking actor and you just have to accept that ok behind.
::tomgustafson
Just per I say sayrying real life at the same time like he see seems really good at this.
::CHUD
Yeah, yeah. And that yeah.
::Terry
The scenes Apparently he was not a great guy but you can still enjoy his movies.
::CHUD
Yeah, it's pretty lucky that all of his accusers have died in suspicious circumstances. Yeah.
::Terry
Ah, see that just makes it all the easier you know, just out of sight out of mind people. It's.
::CHUD
Ah, here you go and then number one I have heats sorry Robert De Niro and Al Pacino Val Gilmer so yeah yeah and a.
::Terry
Yeah I mean it kind of is the definitive crime movie if you say crime movie everyone thinks of heat for better or worse there. Yeah I mean I I still am convinced that you could edit that film back by half an hour
::CHUD
That's what I thought of as well. So.
::Terry
But you know yeah.
::CHUD
It is what it is. She's got a great as you got your head all the way up it that was Pacino yeah yeah.
::Terry
I was pretty good chad now those Pacino yeah, what have you seen the dark night.
::tomgustafson
I was a pretty good de niro. Yes oh I'm sorry I honestly have never fully watched heat I could make it through it. It was too long. Was it.
::CHUD
Ah, heavy. Did you watch the the bank heist. Oh ah, have you seen? ah the bank heist like the when they actually Rob the bank honestly, you could go watch that like it's about 20 minutes long
::tomgustafson
I Have not.
::Terry
Yeah, and that's that's most the movie. Yeah um, and you don't have to watch heat if you've seen the dark night. So I mean you know right? because ah he pretty much.
::CHUD
And it's probably 1 of the best 1 of the best robbery scenes ever in a movie because it's fantastic.
::tomgustafson
Okay.
::tomgustafson
Oh okay I have seen the dark night.
::Terry
Took his inspiration for the dark night from the movie heat.
::tomgustafson
That makes me maybe want to watch it well but say do I want to watch more now or not and that's something.
::Terry
Well in what I mean by that is is by how the the movie presents itself in the crimes and stuff a lot of that was modeled after heat. He didn't wanted to feel like a superhero movie in some fictional city he won I mean it's.
::tomgustafson
Okay.
::Terry
Pretty obviously Chicago and the dark night. So.
::CHUD
The city that starts with the sea ends in and all in the middle is heckcack. All right? Well that was my Ta 10 ah who wants to go next to go for it all right? Ah I'll just keep talking Then. Ah.
::tomgustafson
Ah I'm afraid.
::Terry
And you you really just got to pick someone because whenever you say who wants to do what we all just sit and stare at each other.
::tomgustafson
There. Okay.
::CHUD
all right? great show guys ah all right Tom want you want you to start off with your number 10 who that's what she said.
::Terry
I You by.
::tomgustafson
All right I am getting it up here. So I can try to see you guys at the same time because I I want to see I want to look in the eye while I say this stuff there we go okay is fully up now we're a grade.
::Terry
I Assume I assumed you got it up the second you saw us though.
::CHUD
All right.
::tomgustafson
All right? So I had a lot of runners up but my number 10 I unfortunately I think I interpreted this differently maybe than I was supposed to um I think I mostly looked at comedy cry movies as well. So so number ten is bay watch.
::CHUD
Well just fine. Yeah yeah.
::Terry
I expected nothing less and.
::CHUD
Oh the rock and Zach Ephron one and yeah, it is totally a crime movie. So I'll allow it.
::tomgustafson
Yep, that is all about the heights you're trying to break down a drug ring.
::Terry
Yeah, it it's valid. It's just kind of amazing because that's the first time that's ever appeared on a top 10 list.
::tomgustafson
Yeah, Zach Ephron when they're hiding in the Morgue and the the ah melted fat from a cadaver goes into his mouth as a a scene that I laughed very hard at no i.
::CHUD
Ah, but it wasn't a bad movie. What ter terror saying it's like a bad movie. Why wouldn't it be on a top 10
::Terry
I.
::tomgustafson
It clearly is not bet demonstrably in the top 10
::Terry
I Have to admit I skipped that one I Sometimes I'll skip a movie just based on assumptions that was one of those times. Ah.
::CHUD
Ah, this.
::tomgustafson
Or it could be a movie that you saw more than once in the theater you know, different situations different people number 9 is weekend at bernie's.
::CHUD
But number 9 ah, what's good. Ah yeah.
::Terry
Um, you I it is it is but I always love your top 10 lists Tom because like no one could predict them now like you could you could have given me a month
::tomgustafson
There is it is literally a walking crime the entire movie.
::CHUD
Just we can.
::Terry
And that's all I had to do is twenty four seven was sit and try to figure out what your top 10 list would be and I still would not have come up with weekend at bernie's.
::tomgustafson
Ah, hads ah trip Tra seeing a cadaver around the entire movie I'm pretty sure it's legal to have a dead body not in the morig. Especially if it's not like yourre relative.
::CHUD
What did they do that was illegal and weaken at Bernie. So.
::Terry
Yeah, you ah.
::CHUD
That's Illegal. I Don't know they're being framed for this crime they're trying to get away.
::Terry
Yeah I'm with Tom I don't think you can legally do that.
::CHUD
All right? Well keep going.
::tomgustafson
Yeah, so in my mind it was the ultimate crime movie because they literally are with a dead man the entire time.
::Terry
And Chad's going to check the statutes see where it is and is not legal. That's actually good information to have anyway. So I think we should know that.
::tomgustafson
Because on top again this probably state dependent so we are looking I'm assuming it minnesota can I live with a dead person is which had searching now number 8 is Beverly Hills cop
::CHUD
I.
::Terry
Oh that's how that's a legit choice I would say that.
::CHUD
But well which I'm sorry I was reading yeah that I I've always liked Beverly Hills cop to more than the first month yeah you do the do the to the trilogy.
::tomgustafson
Beverly Hills cop was my number 8 I guess I was I would agree with you I was using it this as presenting the series but but it more specific I do pick different ones in series down the road though in the list here number 7 this is just as probably 1 my favorite movies of all time. This is dragnet with Dan Ek right and ah Tom Hanks
::Terry
That was a great movie. Don't.
::tomgustafson
Pagan Sorry people against Goodness Normalcy I Still use Eml muzz for a lot of my like online handles is Eml Mus yeah.
::CHUD
Ah.
::Terry
Nice dory kids. It'll grow back.
::CHUD
Ah, cool Six foot two http://mustachenewgimonths but
::tomgustafson
Ah, number 6 is naked gun two and a half
::Terry
An excellent film by any measure.
::tomgustafson
It's awfully big mustache this I think I told Chad but Terry this is like a Leslie Niels and movies is my new marker for how young my medical students are is like if they know who Leslie Nielsen is and vast majority don't know who he is.
::Terry
Um.
::Terry
Really oh the sad we need to teach a class.
::tomgustafson
Is kind of sad I make them watch on Youtube the six foot 2 mustache scene just so they understand his genius number 5 for me is super troopers.
::CHUD
Super yeah I mean drugs. Yeah, ah and I thought super troopers too was great as well. But yeah, but the first one the first one is.
::tomgustafson
Drugs all over the place. Is pretty that is such a weird movie how that ever got made is beyond me but that is us.
::Terry
Ah, which one had what would which one had the meow thing in it. Okay, that's the one I saw and that had me rolling I I loved that.
::CHUD
If are a much better movie than those first one? yeah.
::tomgustafson
That is number 1
::tomgustafson
There's some some pretty impressive cameos though in super Juopers to where you're not quite sure how they got the how they got these actors to show up in that movie and do what they did.
::CHUD
Yeah, no.
::CHUD
So is it legal to weaken it Bernie someone. It's it's not legal. Ah, but ah, you can you know transport a dead person if you are the deceased person's legal ne of kin. Or the legal next of kin has asked you to transport the deceased person and they did not pay you to do that? Yeah yeah, so if you're a more titian I think you could find enough legal loopholes. You could do this.
::Terry
Okay, so it's really you get into licensing issues is kind of a big deal.
::tomgustafson
It's that pale.
::tomgustafson
You could weaken that burn is.
::Terry
Hey I'm being paid to transport this body I am licensed and we just we just did not have a car so we're walking with them and ah ok.
::CHUD
Ah.
::tomgustafson
Or going to the casino buffet.
::tomgustafson
No money changed hands.
::Terry
No money would have to change hands in that scenario I All no I mean I guess I suppose a you know funeral director can do favors for people. You know.
::tomgustafson
Well I think Chad said you had to have done it for no pay for to be legal. So no money can exchange hands for it to be legal if you pay me to weaken at Bernie's all son I'm in jail.
::CHUD
Yeah, yeah, unless you're a Martician Yeah yeah because ah if you're a Martician you get paid to do it. But if you're not licensed.
::Terry
Right? right? I would do it for fun I'm just throwing that out there people that I would do it for fun.
::CHUD
Mortician You can't accept money to do it. So yeah, ah unfortunately ah, they expect you to the person will be decently buried and cremated within a reasonable time after so ah.
::tomgustafson
Reasonable time that sounds like you've got that's legal. You got a football field there to work with I mean reasonable to you reasonable for me as a three day weekend you know let's
::CHUD
It's very vague. Yeah, ah hey it was a nice place.
::tomgustafson
Ah, number 3 number 3 for me is movie that I guess I didn't expect to like as much they did which is Logan lucky.
::Terry
It really was very luxurious.
::CHUD
Yeah, with ah ah god ah Daniel Craig Adam driver yeah yeah was a very good movie. Yeah.
::tomgustafson
That chantning take yeah Daniel correct and Tatum and driver as if I've made just because it was it was a heist movie of from dumb people and they made it. It was such a dumb plan. It was genius that it worked.
::CHUD
Ah.
::tomgustafson
My number two those I had to specify the exact one as fast 5 solely for the bank vault chasing.
::CHUD
Fast 5 ah fast five I will say is the only truly great movie from the fast and furious franchise I mean like I would recommend that ah any action movie fan fast 5 is fantastic. It.
::Terry
Now was now is that though I was going to ask is that the one where for some reason it became heist movies after that. Ok yeah.
::CHUD
And it completely changed the the trajectory of the series after that point.
::CHUD
So yeah, yeah, exactly.
::tomgustafson
They are dragging the bank vault like literallyly down the highway destroying everything with a.
::Terry
Because before that there was no, they weren't like teams of robbers they were like car racers right.
::CHUD
Yeah, they they raise cars in like the first movie they hijack trucks and that's what Paul Walker's character is assigned to go go catch him point break style. Ah, and then you get more into like drug dealing and the.
::Terry
Ah, okay.
::CHUD
Second one the third one is basically all street racing. It takes place in Japan and then ah fourth one is ah more drugs getting how they get the drugs from the Mexico to the us and and then ah fifth one was. Just a heist movie where all of a sudden they can do ah you know hack government ah computer systems and ah yeah.
::tomgustafson
It's really, that's where they became the family because it was It was all about family there.
::Terry
Um, all right? So an interesting pivot That's ah you know.
::CHUD
Yeah I still remember though I I've told this story many times I was in an imax theater I can't remember but what movie it was but I was in the imax theater and it was packed house and the trailer all this crazy stuff is happening but in the trailer. Drive a convertible off a cliff and they just have a close up of Paul Walker and vin diesel. It's like you'd think they'd be so oh shit now serious faces. We're gonna jump out of the car and just land the water and when the in the trailer. It's a.
::tomgustafson
Um, yeah.
::CHUD
It just goes silent like the you just hear the the wind as the car is falling through the sky and says silent with air. Everybody starts laughing says so dumb. Yeah I I had to see it.
::tomgustafson
And then that that point they knew they had just a true jam like this entire theater wants to see this movie for how stupid it is. They've all been hooked.
::CHUD
Exactly So it is a great movie introduce. The rock into the series as well and so and ah yeah, and where we at time.
::tomgustafson
Has never been the same number one number 1 is national treasure. The ultimate heist we're still in the declaration independence what is a bigger crime than stealing history. Really.
::Terry
I will.
::CHUD
Ah, that's true I Think the dollar bill is trying to tell me something god.
::tomgustafson
God I Love that movie so much we we watch it Hollywood loves it. We watch it probably at least we've made the kids watch it and they hated it hated. They hate the national treasure. We didn't care. It's like you're watching this movie tonight. We're watching as do you know? there's a sec when they're like oh God no.
::CHUD
Um, we're watching again. We're going.
::tomgustafson
They're making a third one. Oh why.
::Terry
It is kind of a delight isn't it trying to get your kids to watch movies that you loved. It's like I can't get it to happen I try I've tried so many times and they just won't do it. But.
::tomgustafson
Oh that's why Disney plus is worth every penny I'll ever paid to make them watch all the terrible disney channel original movies from when I was a child. Well Eddie's million dollar cookoff. Yeah, we're watching that tonight.
::CHUD
Ah, a kid in King Arthur's coat a kid in King Arthur's book.
::tomgustafson
Full Court miracle about the Jewish Basketball team. Yes, we are watching this tonight.
::Terry
I Wonder if that can start to count as a type of child abuse after a while but as random thought um.
::CHUD
Ah, her.
::tomgustafson
Make they kind of got into full core. They've gotten a full full core miracle that was a yeah number one national treasure that was the first movie that came to mind when you said this list.
::CHUD
Yeah, and.
::Terry
And.
::CHUD
All right there he got a tough list to follow up. Hu Thomas is is gonna be fun. Ah.
::Terry
All right? Well I guess that leaves me and ah yep, um, it's always following. Tom's always tough man because I I yeah I can't top that it's it's way more fun than my list. My list is comparably very predictable.
::CHUD
To.
::tomgustafson
Ah, and and good movies. Probably I.
::Terry
Um I um one point of pride those that I did 0 research on I I did 0 research on this. These are the movies that came to mind when I thought crime movie I did have to whittle it down to 10 But here's what I got so ah maybe it was because of the movies we had on our list.
::CHUD
I I don't think there was a bad movie on your ah on your list.
::Terry
For tonight but um at 10 I have snatch. Um, which is just legit like I think his best movie is it's his best work that I've seen it good half a dozen times never get tired of it. Um, all right? um.
::CHUD
There we go.
::CHUD
Yeah.
::Terry
And I full disclosure these aren't in any particular order. Um, okay so at number nine and number nine I have the maltese falcon oh like.
::CHUD
Well, that was number 10 so this is number 9 you know I've never seen it. So.
::tomgustafson
I I I know what the premise is but again I I've never actually seen it but I know kind of what it's about just based on the historical significance of that movie.
::Terry
Okay, yeah, if I mean if you if you only watch like 1 or 2 old classic film nor movies. I highly recommend making the maltese falcon one of them. Um I mean it's got Peter Laurie it's got Humphrey bogar. It's just it's an amazing movie. Check it out. Um, all right? So that brings me to number 8 where I have 7 which lot of Kevin Spacey appearances in the list tonight.
::CHUD
Yeah, yeah, it's dangerous man. Yeah I would say 7 is more harder to watch than like reservoir dogs or pulp fiction. It's like ah oh.
::tomgustafson
Another disturbing movie That's hard to watch again. Now it's like ah the eyes.
::Terry
Yeah, um.
::Terry
Oh by far. Yeah and I mean part of the draw to 7 for me is is the cinematography of it is such a dark movie and very textured. Um, but also it's just disturbing as hell and um, it's almost what they don't show makes it. Even more disturbing like you only get kind of a glance at whatever the sex thing is he makes the guy put on the yeah, the strap on knife or whatever the hell that was um, incredible performances throughout and I I have to say.
::tomgustafson
Yeah, the the weird this wrap on Yeah ulron sword. Yeah.
::CHUD
Yeah I don't want to see anymore. But that it's all of the oh god.
::Terry
Still the fodder for some of the best jokes I've ever told like you know I mean just the once in the box references alone just you never run out.
::CHUD
Have you guys ever seen the the unboxing video where hit they're doing 7 It's odd you too. Ah, but yeah, it's a guy doing a Morgan Freeman impression and it's like first person.
::Terry
Um, no, but holy shit that's brilliant I got to go find that right now.
::CHUD
Like a cheap packing material.
::Terry
Ah, oh god there's brilliant. Holy shit that might actually be better than in the movie 7 um, ok so what? what number was that all right 7 as 7 Ok um, so.
::CHUD
Ah, those 7 Yeah I'm not sure.
::tomgustafson
I think you had 7 for 7
::Terry
Um, then I have at I'm assuming number 6 I shove numbered these no country for old men which I really like oh yeah.
::CHUD
Has one of the best villains. It's not my favorite call Brothers movie but it has a fantastic villain.
::Terry
No, and it um, it actually have another Cohen Brothers movie further down the list. So clearly this is not my favorite Cohen Brothers movie either now. Sadly now. Um.
::tomgustafson
Lady Killers let it be lady killers.
::CHUD
Ah, undergrad.
::tomgustafson
Fifth.
::Terry
Ah, um, all right? and then after that I have the silence of the lambs which now I this much like the movie 7 um is.
::CHUD
Purchase You are right.
::tomgustafson
That's a good one.
::Terry
Just endless fodder for jokes as well. But it's also a fantastic movie. Um, all right? So getting back to the cohens the next one I have on my list is Miller's crossing which as far as like classic gangster style movies go is probably my all time favorite.
::CHUD
Yeah.
::CHUD
Yeah, yeah.
::Terry
Um, and then um, what am I down to this is number 2 I think yeah or wait. No, there's now I really should have numbered them. Um.
::CHUD
Okay, you need a number this.
::tomgustafson
I Don't know.
::Terry
Ah, no I'm actually down to number four and see it Ari feels like I've gone forever. But I'm only halfway through my list.
::CHUD
I not I think we skipped ah number 7 when we were talking about 7 I think number 8 was 7
::Terry
Okay, um, anyway, so for number 4 I have l a confidential. Yep, it's a freaking great movie I I've never been able to trust him since um.
::tomgustafson
Was 7 8
::CHUD
It's good. 1 James Cromwell is a dangerous man. Okay.
::Terry
Right? And then number three I have the godfather because it's the godfather I mean it's kind of the I mean really defined the gangster movie. You know.
::CHUD
Yeah, yeah, that's how it yeah, that's how I felt like putting good fellows on my list of of like godfather and good fellows I prefer good fellows but and I'd probably prefer godfather too.
::Terry
And I prefer the godfather so it's interesting now. Fair I mean I I actually I know a lot of people who like godfather to more than they like Godfather um, and then no one likes godfather 3 apparently.
::CHUD
So.
::CHUD
Yeah.
::Terry
Think that's the one you're not allowed to like you're just wrong.
::CHUD
Yeah, if you if you like that one you hear you just wrong and Sophia Copless sucks all right drum roll go for it.
::Terry
All right? um and then I think about yeah I'm at number one now. Yeah, okay so at number one I have pulp fiction. It is. It's yeah, it's I mean.
::CHUD
Is number 1 he said number 2
::CHUD
It's good. 1 can't really go wrong I saw that movie so many times when it came out and granted that was what 95 I was twelve years old so probably through my teen years I that was one of my favorite movies. So.
::Terry
A.
::Terry
Yeah, no and I mean for me, it endures to this day. It's just it's kind of Tarantino's masterpiece so far as I'm concerned.
::CHUD
Yeah I don't think he's top that one like there's some things that I think he's done that you know is really good, but pulp fiction is probably is his best movie but runners up. Ah. See I had fast 5 and Logan lucky as well. Ah, some that weren't mentioned point break counter reeves and Patrick Swayzey problem know but the extreme sports ah point break. No, we didn't that wound was atrocious.
::Terry
Um, so oh so not the remake one.
::CHUD
Ah, the departed the the ah Leo and Matt Damon Jack Michaelskin
::Terry
Yeah, excellent movie. You know that's another one where it drags a little bit. Yeah.
::CHUD
Yeah, so I mean pretty much any like score safety movie can kind of kind of just have your pick casino gangs of New York ah' see ah more? Yeah well I mean.
::Terry
Do you go far as far back as like mean streets and that kind of thing are what? yeah.
::CHUD
Go back. The taxi driver too is then ah see bottle Rocket Wes Anderson's first movie. Ah I probably should have put that in my top 10 I think I could ah but ah and then any others I want to.
::Terry
An excellent and excellent crime movie.
::CHUD
Um, a more recent one heller high water with ah Chris Pine and Jeff Bridges it's a it's a great movie. It's a little slow but Jeff Bridges is Jeff Bridges is really good in it.
::Terry
Is that good I have it. It's been sitting in my to watch list for ever. But. I can deal with slow.
::CHUD
And ah last one I'll say a touch of evil or some wells movie from the 50 s yeah.
::Terry
I Actually I would count that as a miss for me I could I could think of a couple of movies off my list that I would bump for a touch of evil. Yeah.
::CHUD
Yeah, has probably the best opening shot of any movie ever. So but yeah, any runners up that I missed.
::Terry
Um, I mean I for runners up I heat was on my runners up list the big Lebowski um, yeah, usuals you usual suspects in Fargo or.
::CHUD
Yeah, big Liboski. It's a.
::Terry
Mentioned by other people.
::CHUD
Yeah, big Leboski is more of a comedy to me. It's ah I mean there's crimes in it. But you know I wouldn't think it as like a crime movie. Ah, ah, those kidnapping I guess but.
::tomgustafson
Nip I 1 for but involve. Yeah I guess.
::Terry
Um, yeah, yeah.
::Terry
Right? It it. It was almost one step too far removed if we're doing a movie about her and not a movie a list about great detective stories I think the big Lebowski would be a stronger contender for that. But not.
::CHUD
Yeah.
::Terry
Crime movie crime crime movie to me so something a little more visceral than just a detective story. Yes, just just like just like baywatch.
::tomgustafson
Like Bay watch just brand the catch random because you're in the gut.
::CHUD
Like Baywatts. Yeah yeah, it's very visceral. Ah.
::tomgustafson
The ah the onlys up all add is ah for you. Chatd is rogue one a star wars story. It is star wars star wars crime and more Brazil ah, only because of the Jamie Fox cameo but that's horrible bosses with motherfucker jones.
::CHUD
Yeah, Earth yeah.
::CHUD
Ah, yeah, you know what I would say that is misra from my runners up. Ah.
::tomgustafson
Him hit that the gag of him partially telling the story of how he got his Nick Dave throughout the entire movie was the absolute highlight.
::CHUD
Yeah I took her wallet and took all the money I really fucked her over.
::Terry
You know I've got one more to add I I didn't I didn't think of it until now. But because I I guess I tend to think of this more as either a punk film or a sci-fi film. But you know what. Repo man would be a real contender for this list I think you know Emilio Esta as um Harry Dean Stan um I could see that I could see a strong argument for that as a top 10 crime movie because they actually use the line.
::CHUD
And yeah.
::Terry
Come on man let's go do some crimes. Yeah, like let's go get sushi and not pay.
::CHUD
And.
::CHUD
All right? Well that that the kind of wraps up our crime episode. Ah and we're gonna be doing this every month. So if you've been listening this far. Come back next month I have no idea.
::Terry
Um, dun dun down.
::tomgustafson
Do we know what we're doing next month is is has the host decided I don't know yeah, the host the host pants on yeah, you don't want me choosing Chad that's that that that will just be what I say.
::CHUD
g I think we could do ah. The: ::Terry
Oh I Love that movie.
::tomgustafson
Is there a canonical end like a canonical ending of clue why I mean is like the one that is considered the canonical correct and it is okay.
::Terry
There's 3 endings to clue.
::CHUD
Yeah, yeah, that this is what really happened the the last one where they're all guilty. Yeah, so if you haven't seen it coach at the end. Ah, but.
::Terry
Yeah.
::Terry
You know, funny Anecdote I had wanted to put on a stage production of clue when I was in college and um I wanted every performance to have different endings so there'd be like a couple of endings and then the one where they all did it. But that meant I had to write endings for all the other characters that didn't have endings where they were guilty and so I actually wrote those I wonder if I could find that that would be fun. Um, we never got to do the production unfortunately because um, be. Because I was young and that takes a lot of follow through to get something like that. No no, no, it's just I mean you know it was an idea I had and then there's all the work that comes after that.
::tomgustafson
I'll say Pi a co No no, no, no, no.
::tomgustafson
I Don't know I don't know get.
::CHUD
But yeah, what do you does that sound good to you guys? Ah yeah, it it has Daniel Craig in it and if you like Logan lucky I mean he does the southern accent in this one too. Ah.
::Terry
Um, a yeah clue and knives out I.
::tomgustafson
I have not seen knives out so that'll be good for me. Okay, how man he he was his I enjoyed him and Logan lucky.
::Terry
Um, now there's a sequel coming out isn't there.
::CHUD
Ah, but and then there's like 2 or 3 sequels because they gave a game like gave Ryan Johnson like a hundred million dollars to them or something we love these things. It's yeah on Netflix I believe so I think it's available on Netflix.
::tomgustafson
What guns out on the.
::Terry
Just keep making these we love these things oh well then it all might be canceled. They cancel everything. It's it's it's getting to be a real problem like if I hear about a show being made that I'm excited about I'm like oh where's it streaming ah shit Netflix because like it's gonna go away.
::CHUD
And why is that.
::tomgustafson
Yeah, they canceled nailed it on me bastards. Ah.
::CHUD
None of them.
::Terry
They're not going to keep making them.
::CHUD
And then for our top 10 while't we do top 10 detective stories. So yeah since you brought it up. Yeah there you go so and how about next time for the next time Terry want you come up with a.
::Terry
Oh yeah, sure. Okay I can just read I can recycle a few of my entries here.
::Terry
Oh okay so I'll come up with a okay so I have homework.
::CHUD
With what we're gonna what movies. Yeah, and then Tom will go and then so I did the first 2 so you do have homework. Yeah yeah, and that is gonna be kind of the theme of the show. We'll pick an old movie. We'll pick a new movie and kind of.
::tomgustafson
Who my mind's gonna be current current while Disney and then eighty s disney movies speak. So.
::tomgustafson
Tremors 1 tremor 7 now.
::CHUD
Talk about them. Yeah, so tremors and then ah, what's a.
::Terry
What would be a good counterpart to tremors so tremors would be the old movie and then.
::tomgustafson
Why you? well then you didn't do the lowest recent tremors 7 that came out just literally just a few years ago I was told the time I heard nothing about it. Can't be from the same series.
::Terry
Well no, but it shouldn't be the same series I mean you should pick something like you know what is. And.
::CHUD
I pick Star Wars and Star Wars Rob one This is actually prequel all right? well.
::tomgustafson
Deal with it I will promise make them from different horrible series of movies. Earnest goes to Jail and.
::CHUD
Ah, do you guys? Want to say we're like on social media or anything.
::tomgustafson
Yeah, well as will be public. Yeah, we'll be I mean assuming we'll be Pgp filmcast and we will be on all the major podcasting sites. It's quite. It's a lot easier so Spotify Itunes the whole 9 narrows.
::Terry
Oh are we.
::CHUD
So yeah, there we go so Itunes and.
::Terry
No kidding.
::Terry
Oh I can listen to this on Spotify. It's exciting I guess I guess we know we won't be paid then.
::CHUD
Woohoo. Nice.
::tomgustafson
Month. No I don't guess will yeah.
::CHUD
We will be paying to do this all right.
::Terry
Ah, yeah, so a few people at home. Don't appreciate it. This is costing probably chad a lot of money.
::CHUD
No, it is actually Tom are.
::tomgustafson
Where isn't this is ah all ah being ah supported by the magic podcast so we are We are cool.
::Terry
Okay, good. Also I still gone on. Do you want to plug that.
::tomgustafson
Yeah, well, it's ah we rehashed it. The people that took it over for when I stopped they quit they quited episode 807 or 800 I cant watch what it was about a year ago so I decide to just take the name back I don't know it's not like it's a trademark I can start calling it. Whatever I want.
::Terry
Um, and.
::tomgustafson
So Monday night magic is back.
::CHUD
All right? Well the Pgp film cast is also back for all those listeners that were listening to us before.
::Terry
Um, yeah, all 7 of you that.
::tomgustafson
Um, yes, and it but now it'll be the process. It has been tuned on the magic podcast. It is actually quite easy now.
::CHUD
All right? Awesome All right Thanks for listening talk to you later.
::Terry
I. 5.
::tomgustafson
Bye Oh let's stop.
